Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

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Taken from the age website today.....

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Huge rise in fees for music in clubs
July 10, 2007 - 12:25PM

Clubbers and dance party fans will face a sharp rise in cover charges after an industry body won its fight to improve rewards for musicians by raising music licensing fees.

The fees paid to artists by the venues which play their recorded music will rise from a flat rate of seven cents per patron per song to as much as $3.07, following a ruling by the Copyright Tribunal of Australia.

"The tribunal has concluded that the proposed scheme should be confirmed," Justice Arthur Emmett said in releasing the tribunal's ruling on Tuesday.

"The figure of $1.05 is a fair (per patron payment) in nightclubs," Justice Emmett said.

The licence fee rises to $3.07 cents per person for dance parties.

The Phonographic Performance Company of Australia Ltd (PPCA) has been fighting for more than three years for a rise in licence fees.

Paul Christie, PPCA member and member of iconic Australian band Mondo Rock, said it recognised the "years and years and years of commitment and practice" it took to be a musician.

"In the essence of the word fairness this is long overdue," he said outside the court.

"My feeling is that music has, in terms of its remuneration factor for musicians, long been undervalued."

The fee rise was opposed by groups including the Australian Hotels Association (AHA), Clubs Australia and New Mardi Gras, which said it would increase their costs and flow on to rises in cover charges.
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j El B
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

YEah i have a comment. I always have a comment.

I would be also needing more money if i was in Mondo Rock.

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Sm1clatxi
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

might be fair enough, not sure though.
most clubs pay a lot to apra and ppca already anyway
will depend on how the clubs run though really, most will just increase drink prices a little....

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tailz
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

fuck that

even more of a reason to move outta clubland....

Wrong. Most of the time.

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tailz
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

On a more serious note, though, musicians are exceedingly underpaid. Will this improve thier situations, really, though?

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j El B
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

Yeah, Lars Ulrich needs another swimming pool at his holiday house in spain, When will Justice be served!

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tailz
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

does metallica get played in clubs?

good point the music that does is for already commercialised crap. *tailz stand corrected again when trying to talk aobut music*

Wrong. Most of the time.

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j El B
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

Quote:
does metallica get played in clubs?

good point the music that does is for already commercialised crap. *tailz stand corrected again when trying to talk aobut music*

Is Chasers still open? Or what about DV8? Although that place is more like an Ikea Fun pit than a Club

Im pretty sure they play Talica in there, And props to Reets for knowing who Lars is.

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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

Clubs are a major advertising platform for record labels.  The 12" was originally created to promote Artist rather than being a revenue generating product in itself.  You could argue that clubs (who pass the costs on to the punters) are being charged money to advertise and build brand awareness which is a pretty neat trick (similar to when people pay extra to buy a t-shirt with a logo on it).

j El B
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

So whats the deal, does it mean Dj's get payed more? or does the extra dough filter through to the songwriters?

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Sm1clatxi
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

it means that nightclubs will have to give more money to license gathering bodies such as apra and ppca.
some of the bigger clubs and dance parties have to supply song lists to these bodies. theses bodies then divide up the licenses using these lists as a guide.
most of the money goes overseas as most tracks played come from oversears but some stays here and that goes to artists who are played in the big clubs i.e. tv rock, sneaky sound system and maybe a couple of others, like evermore or something....

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Scotto
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

I'm totally against his idea. Do we need to start charging people once their car stereo exceeds a certain volume? (actually, that might be a good ting)

It takes too much power to check but mainly is much more likely to hurt the struggling artist than the major artist. We may all listen to music that doesn't get the same level of radio pay as Kylie, but a lot of the music we listen to is still made by people who can at least earn a living from music. Its the DJs who play on the weekend that usually wait tables and drive forklifts during the day who truly keep the scene alive.

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j El B
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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

It may in effect encourage more live music. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not, its possible that there is already more musicians than musical talent.  

Theres nothing quite like the horns from a jazz band blasting in your ear when u go for a quiet beer on a Sunday.

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Re: Huge rise in fees for music in clubs

well if they actually taught musicians good music buisness skills they wouldnt all be such wastoids waiting for their next doll check.

i really dont think that this will do much.

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