Scotto loves starsigns

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(i would write something more substantial but yeah .. what reets said!)

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hippy birfdee  :D

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'X' x 2 = X to the power of two.

'X2' + 1 = something else like X3? or 2X2

multiplied by four and you get 4 x (2X2 or X3) = ??

'X2' + 1 = something else like X3? or 2X2

multiplied by four and you get 4 x (2X2 or X3) = ??

= Virgos Rock!

Actually X^2 = X to the power of two; X x 2 = X times two (X * 2)

And Virgos don't rock at all. You all suck because you are argumentative, manipulative and cunning bastards who can't lose an argument, even if you are wrong.

But in my experience, most Virgos are attentive in the bedroom (that's my birthday present to you Juz, I will never admit that again).

I would expect better from both of you. Star Signs? Pffft. Sorry, that doesn't express just how fucked the whole concept of star signs really is.

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

That's better.

Maybe I'm just jealous.  :-/

you should know better about me and my star signs, mr...

Actually X^2 = X to the power of two; X x 2 = X times two (X * 2)

And Virgos don't rock at all. You all suck because you are argumentative, manipulative and cunning bastards who can't lose an argument, even if you are wrong.

So what your saying is that u cant win an arguement with me even if you are right ,and thats meant to reflect poorly on my character? Maybe im just smarter than you give me credit.

Thats what poor grammar and spelling can do for a guy. People think your an idiot just cause they struggle to decipher the bleeding obvious.

No. I mean every Virgo I know does not know how to let go, especially in an argument, despite whether they are right or wrong... That does reflect badly because I am basically saying Virgos (*sensing Scotto cringing as I type*) are argumentative to the point of annoyance because they just keep arguing for the sake (ego) of it -- regardless of whether they have a valid point or not!

So there  :P

PS: I am speaknig generally of many virgos I have come across.

PPS: I always give you plenty of credit - so nerrrr...

PPPS: A public Happy Birthday to you (your Bday being on a Sat, u didn't get a thread of your own)....

PPPPS: I am finished rambling shite  now....

You know when you meet an intelligent person only to later discover that they are religious? A little part of you wonders how those two conflicting vaules (intelligence and religion) can exist in the same entity and you walk away assuming that that person is not as intelligent as you initially thought?

Well I feel the same about star-signs except they're even more fucking stupid. I don't understand how someone like yourself Tailz can back such a concept without a shred of factual evidence supporting it. With all the research you have had to do in the past I'm really surprised. I would expect this type of response from a tree-hugging, bongo-playing, dole-collecting hippy who wears crystals and only eats GM-free vegetables but not you.

Did you recently get some henna tatoos? Did you call the Atehena psychic hotline? I also know a Zimbabwean prince who needs to get some money out of the contry and needs your help. Look, gullible is written on the ceiling? I sense a ghost following you around. Maybe its that smudge on this photo? Oh, and one last thing.....did you get the same alien visit I did?

(OK, I need to back pedal a little here. I don't actually think you're stupid, in fact you are one of the most intelligent friends I have, but knowing you support star-signs really conflicts with the high opinion I have of you. Please stop.....if only for me.)

(And I expect a big FUCK OFF heading my way   )

Justin started it - I am stirring him. I am speaking from experience that may have nothing to do with fact - but statistically (thebasis for all research claims) there is a significant relationship. I am not foolish enough to suggest that cause and effect are a result of a relationship between two variables, but, in my experience, a relationship between Virgo people and the way they behave exists.

My ex and Justin are so fucking alike, it baffles me - they have never met, grew up in different cultural backgrounds and yet still behave very similarly in certain situations. Willie too in some ways!

And if the moon effects the tide with it's magnetic influence on the earth, why don't planets have some similar, small magno-electrical pull on organisms that are also predominantly H2O (the same organisms that are completely influencd by magno-electrical changes in the environment.

I have studied the physics of magnetically changing the planes that surround human tissue when created in a scientific, contolle denironment, and know that there is a specific reaction for every minute magnetic gradient change in the planes around that tissue. This gets really complecated and is quantum physics that I can't explain, but have learnt about in its basic form. WE can now image this with the right coding and physically see it through MRI and MEG technology.

That said (and back to my argument) why wouldn't the alignment of the planets, effecting our envrionment have some influence on the internal envrionment of humab being.

I do not believe that star signs = personality.. but there is some "evidence" or "Rita logic" that some influence, and some relationship between the variables, may exist.

I don't beleive in anything, but I do not disbeleive in anything either.
Every little myth began with some element of truth (or, at least, the idealist in me likes to think so).... It's the beleivers & zealots that turn it into hogwash...

For example: Hindu claims about chakras and golden life force have, in more recent scientific examinations (once we started cutting people open and examining the body that way) been supported ... The 7 chakras actually align with the seven organs of the endocrine system (hormones and immune system), which is "driven" by lymph - a golden coloured fluid that transports nuitrients, hormones through the immune & lymphatic system to the rest ofthe body...  Thousand of years of religious beliefs backed up by modern science... Perhaps not the claims that are made from by modern religious doctrination - and the bastardisation of creative thinking into a doctrinated "wayof life" - but some linkage between ancient thinking and what we now can deliniate from technological advances in the scientific world...

So there!

(I realise how badly my argument is structured, but you get the gist)....

Niice, My fault again. All good, I can deal with that.

Go drink some chai you hippy!

Wow......cool fucking response. (serious) But there are still major flaws in the concept of a star sign. If magnetic forces from stars are having an impact on us, does this assume that neither the moon or other planets in our solar system have any impact?

I ask this because the zodiac is broken amongst the earth year and as such the stars should be in the exact same spot (I think) each year, but these other forms of mass such as moons and planets which surely would have a greater effect due to their position will not be in the exact same place every year.

In addition, if what you say is true, wouldn't a person born on the 18th of a particular month be much more like another born on the 24th of that same month, rather than the person sharing the same star sign born on the 24th of last month?

One must therefore conclude that while external forces may yet still have some impact on our development, that it would not be as nicely split up amongst the zodiac as the twelve neat divides that people pay $4.95 a minute to have read to them.

star signs are actually about the planetary alignment, not the stars themselves. THe stars are just the most visible contsallation that was apaarent when born.. Or something like that...

And real zodiac stuff is NOT the $4.95 per minute shit. It's knowing the planetary alignments, where they sit in your "house" and the pull they have on you at a given moment  in time (day, week, month; depending on their orbit cycle). Which I don't necessarily beleive in and live by.. but it's an interesting concept to consider.

But yeah, I know why you think it is ridiculous... but I think you're understanding of astrology comes from the Herald Scum and trash mags, and that is unfortunate!

i never really believe much into them until i read the birthday book and was a bit freaked when i sorta fit the equation. however as a test i found someone else who had my birthday and they did not seem to form the same image set by the book.

as much as i think that most star reading in mags are crap and only for entertainment, i do think the break down of star signs are reasonably correct character definitions of people. its all down to megnatism. we study the earth's magnetic fields at school because they use it to derive the mathematic models of the globe. They are extrememly bent out of shape by planetary movements, mostly the moon and the sun. That has to condition people in some way, as it conditions almost everythign else on the planet.

I agree - also Considering we're made up of 70% water and it's affected by gravity you would have to assume that the planets do have some sort of impact on something somewhere within us due to gravity
an interesting thing to do is get your chart done - an astrological chart is a map of the solar system at the the time of your birth as seen from the place of your birth.
you can do it for free here...
http://www.alabe.com/freechart/
it then goes on to explain what all this stuff means
I found most of this stuff rang true for me although not all of it as social conditioning and our families have a large influence on us as well
you get a a cool pic - the whole process takes about five minutes
funny, i was interested in astrology once, bought an ephemeris and spent the time needed to learn to create charts. then i discovered i was far more interested in astronomy and kinda stopped worrying about astrology. having said that it's one of the funny things that a while after you get into something you tend to stop talking or thinking about it and it just becomes a part of your make-up.
not that i ask people their sign or anything, but it's always cool to meet other aries people as we are often fairly similar in some ways.

OMFG The Birthday book: me to a tee and scarily so!

The Relationship book (there's three of them) was even more scary... It explained Paul's and my relationship down to a tea (or is that 't' or 'tee'?) even how it would end... and I didn't read it until after we'd broken up... So it wasn't a case of a self-fulfilling prophecy...  

In fact, if anyone wants to know what to get me for my thirtieth (OMFG - that's only the second time I've written that!) birthday... The Birthday Book trilogy would be a wonderful addition to my non-existant (but soon to be created) bookshelf!

Interestingly, having just read a bit more about the Birthday Book::: although it is seemingly spot on with it's descriptions of people;  the Birthday book has been severely criticised by serious astrologers for presenting a grossly oversimplified and very general view of modern astrology based solely upon a person's day of birth (the simple Sun sign). Critics suggest that it overlooks the much more precise natal chart/horoscope (above) which uses the exact time and location of birth to delineate a person-specific astrological chart and the influence different planets have/had at the time of their birth, and in turn, would have everytime they shift...

I just want to clear one thing up too - in the nature/nurture argument, as txi said, nurture (environment) plays a massive role in shaping and modelling a person's learning style and subsequent behavioural outcomes, which in turn, influence future behaviour and response styles.

Thus, star signs are never going to perfectly define an individual, EVER. (I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to claim that). But to completely disregard astrology is a bit feeble as well...

That said, Astrology would not have nearly as strong an influence as biological make up, but stil lmust play some part, minimal as it is....

Have we turned you yet, Scotto???

turned Scotto into an esoteric, blood drinking, goth, bat lover?
yeah. fo sho.
hey - funny thing - that chart site must use the same code for people's charts - it was mine when i posted the link - now it's some tracey lady. ooh umm.

I see your problem: Uranus is in retrograde.

sorry, had to bring it down a notch.

Werd 2 dat!

hahahaha this was in mine:

Your sense of humor tends toward being earthy and slapstick crude.

slapstick and crude - there you go scotto. this shit is bang on the money. hehe

I hear ya Adey,

Mine said "Your presence today will be bordering on god like."

Does not get much more accurate than that. Yay to starsigns!

You guys are all a lost cause!!!!

I took the test and viewed my own star chart thingy and after reading the first two categories I was concerned that they seemd a little bit too accurate. It then went on to say that always look after the sick.......which is not true at all. That I will be at the forefront of humanitarian events? Ha Ha Ha!!!! Maybe they're referring to the pen I bought for daffodil day?

This leads me to the other point which is due to the complex nature of us human beings, we tend to experience ALL emotions at some point and our self-obsessed personalities can always make a link between these and a particular event, especially if we want to.

I again conceed that there may be an infulence from magnetic forces despite no one actually proving how this takes place. I could go on about "the butterfly effect" and how the number of insects on the planet at any one time have a strong correlation to our personality as we are all carbon based life forms, but without proof you guys would tell me I'm full of shit. Well?

And to think that these forces have any influence comparing to upbringing, social class and all other environmental factors is truly laughable. We are basing this on specific date that we popped out of out Mum's gap, not on the date of conception, so I still struggle to see a definitive link.

To close, I have decided to quote Stan Marsh from South Park and his comment to Johnothan Edwards about phycics (sp).

"Because the big questions in life are tough: Why are we here? Where are we from? Where are we going? But if people believe in asshole douchey liars like you, we're never gonna find the real answer to those questions. You aren't just lying, you're slowing down the progress of all mankind, you douche!"

very fair and reasonable scotto . . the interesting thing is - while some of what you read in a chart interpretation maybe be true how many alternatives not stated could also be true and have us thinking how accurate it is?
we are kinda complex in our own stupid, mistake repeating ways
i think it's time i removed the pic too.

hey scotto! we were born in the same place. we must share relatives and insecurities or something....

Maybe we were switched at birth? You're that same combo of nice but cruel that the males in my family share.

yeah, switched at birth even though we're born 8 years apart.

cruel only in jest. unless you're talking about stupid people. "stupid people shouldn't breathe" this is on a button on slash's jacket in appetite somewhere....